Woodshed Rhones Dinner: Guest Post from the Venerable Tom Hill


Tom’s undoubtedly schooling me in the history of Rhone varieties in the U.S.

At the 2014 Rhone Rangers event I had the pleasure of meeting Tom Hill. Tom is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Rhone wines in the United States. He was there tasting the first Syrah planted in 1973 (a wine bad enough, he says, to set the Rhone movement back ten years) and he’s been there through the years tasting the best Rhone wines that California has had to offer through the years. He’s been helping Patrick Comiskey with his book on the American Rhone movement . Tom has been a great supporter of the blog and also introduced me to some of the most prolific and best Rhone producers in California. But, by far, the best thing that’s happened to me because I’ve met Tom has been my invitation to a special dinner that he put together with Steve Edmunds of Edmunds St. John Wines and Bob Lindquist of Qupe.

Unfortunately, a few days before the dinner, as luck would have it, I got the stomach flu. After three days of not eating, I decided, that come hell or high water I was going to this dinner. I couldn’t pass up the chance, not only to try the special wines that Steve and Bob were bringing but also to meet Bob and Steve and also the other wine writers and aficionados who were invited. So that’s how it played out. I convinced myself that I was feeling better, put on a nice shirt and headed over to the east bay to attend what turned out to be the best wine event I’ve ever been to. Now, I did take some notes on the wines which I’ll include later but for this post I thought that it would be interesting to let Tom take the lead on this post. He put together his tasting notes and I think his preamble sets the tone and gives the background in a way that only he could. So, what follows are Tom’s words (slightly edited) on this dinner. I’ll give some of my thoughts at the end.


Tom’s words:
Thurs (3/26) WoodShed Rhones

Over the last few years, both SteveEdmunds and BobLindquist have been taken to the “woodshed” by Robert Parker’s Wine Advocate, for the decline in quality of their wines from their earliest efforts (twice in the case of Bob, first by Parker, then by Dunnuck). This is, of course, complete baloney. With their grape sources nailed down and the increasing maturity of their vineyards, they are making the best wines of their career.

I suspect they were both sent to the woodshed because their wines are not big/flashy/extracted upon release and it’s only after some time in bottle that they start to realize their glories, mostly from the inherent balance they both possess. Unless you’ve followed their wines closely over the years, this is a trait that Parker & Dunnuck are clueless about.

I’ve ribbed both Bob & Steve, over the last few years, about what a neat woodshed they hang out in and there are a lot of people who would love to hang there with them. So, I suggested to Bob and Steve that it might be nice to organize a special dinner at Bay Wolf restaurant in Oakland just afore Rhone Rangers, centered around some of their wines from their libraries. They both agreed that that would be a grand idea and would love to do it. Steve thought we should have T-Shirts printed up that stated on the back “Parker can kiss my a$$”. I thought T-Shirts with two old gents peering out a cracked door of a Woodshed, wine bottles littering the surrounding ground, giving the finger to Parker off in the distance, would be neat. Alas, the T-shirts never got done. But we assembled a fine list of real RhoneHeads:

Bob Lindquist/Qupe
Steve Edmunds/Edmunds St Johns
Ken Zinns/Harrington Winery
Patrick Comiskey/Wines & Spirits magazine
Luke Sykora/Wines & Spirits magazine
Cyrus Limon/Cold-Climate Syrah blogger
Louisa Lindquist/ Verdad
Marlene Raderman/rep for Qupe/Verdad
Alan Rath/Bay area wine geek
Brian Goehery/ Wines On Piedmont shop owner
Larry Schaffer/Tercero Winery
Doug Wilson/Los Alamos wine group
Kevin Clancey/former rep for Edmunds St. John
Michael Wild/ Baywolf Restaurant
Tom Hill

The wines were served in pairs. Many of the Qupes were from magnums. Before we tried the wines, Bob & Steve would say a few words about their making. After we tried the wines, Steve would get up and read the Parker review (kindly provided him by Patrick Comiskey) and its score. There would then be this wave of derisive laughter that’d sweep over the table at Parker’s obviously clueless screed.

So…onto the wines:

1. Edmunds St. John Heart of Gold (Vermentino/GrenacheBlanc; 11.7%) 2014: Light gold color; very fragrant/perfumed/honeysuckle/Rouss/flowery/peach blossom slight stony/chalky nose; fairly tart bright/flowery/pear/Viog slight stony/earthy lovely flavor; a bit leaner & food friendly and not as ripe/blowsy as some previous versions but the same lovely aromatics.
2. Qupe Roussanne Bien Nacido Hillside 2011: Med.gold color; deep Rouss/honeysuckle/honeyed/floral slight stony light toasty oak quite perfumed nose; somewhat tart rich/structured Rouss/honeysuckle/pear light stony/mineral very light pencilly/oak; quite a good Rouss but I think this is going to be quite a profound wine down the road w/ 10 yrs of age or more; one of California’s greatest Roussannes being made.
3. Edmunds St. John Los Robles Viejos Rozet Vineyard/ Paso Robles (Viognier/Roussanne/Marsanne) 2003: Med.gold color; bit nutty/toasted hazelnuts/honeyed/waxy/figgy fully mature beautiful complex oldRhone nose; lightly tart smooth/velvety lightly nutty/toasted hazelnuts/earthy/spicy bit waxy/beeswax very complex/nuanced/elegant flavor. In its youth, this was a rather simple/pleasant enough white Rhone blend that spoke mostly of flowery Viognier. I was surprised by how beautifully it had developed into a lovely old Rhone. No signs of oxidation.
4. Qupe Marsanne Los Olivos Vineyard 1993: Med.gold color; beautiful nutty/toasted hazelnuts/honeyed bit smokey/pencilly light stony/mineral quite complex w/ slight oxidative notes; tart stoney/mineral some nutty/toasted hazelnuts/honeyed smokey/earthy slight oxidized bit metallic/tangy very complex flavor; a great example of what a profound/complex wine the Qupe Marsanne can evolve to. On one bottle, the cork plopped into the bottle as Bob started to extract it. The other bottle, with a sound cork, was a bit fresher and didn’t show any oxidative notes whatsoever.

5. Edmunds St. John Rocks & Gravel 2005: Medium dark color w/ little bricking; very Rhonish/CdP-like some earthy/loamy light Grenache/strawberry/plummy/licorice some smokey/pencilly quite complex/Rhonish nose; soft/balanced light strawberry/Grenache/plummy fairly pencilly/smokey bit earthy/loamy/dusty/licorice flavor w/ light/gentle tannins; probably nearing its peak I would guess; a fully mature complex Rhone red. I find the R&G on release an understated/simple/not very dramatic red. But I’m always surprised how, w/ some age, they can rise up and bite you on the a$$ by how good they’ve evolved. This was another good example.

6. Qupe Syrah Bien Nacido Hillside 1998: Dark color w/ no bricking at all; classic mature Qupe smokey/pencilly/pungent/coffee some blackberry/Syrah/blueberry very complex beautiful nose; slightly tart/metallic very smokey/tobacco/pencilly/coffee/Rhonish some blackberry/Syrah/very spicy very complex flavor w/ light/smooth/velvety tannins; lots of pungent/smokey/Rhonish character and a classic example of a mature Qupe Syrah; should go out another 6-10 yrs I would guess.
7. Edmunds St. John Syrah Wylie-Fenaughty 2005: Dark color w/ slight bricking; Dark color w/ slight bricking; beautiful licorice/pungent/graphite/mineral/earthy strong plummy/blackberry/blueberry/Syrah complex perfumed nose; lightly tart slight earthy/mushroomy/truffly/ElDorado some licorice/pungent/graphite strong blackberry/Syrah/blueberry/plummy velvety/smooth textured complex flavor w/ some smooth/ripe tannins; a lovely Syrah that’s probably nearing maturity and shows some of that mushroomy/earthy El Dorado terroir.
8. Qupe/Edmunds St. John Syrah Auction blend 1995: Very dark color w/ no bricking; slight bretty/horsecollar/Rhonish rather blackberry/Syrah/blueberry/licorice slight funky/Rhonish complex nose; lightly tart bit bretty/leathery some blueberry/blackberry/Syrah/licorice some coffee/roasted/old Rhonish flavor w/ light/sharp tannins; a noticeable bret component that gave it a bit of Southern Rhone character. A special 50/50 blend of one barrel each that Steve&Bob did for the CentralCoastWineFestival auction.
9. Edmunds St. John BassettiVnyd/PasoRobles 2005: Black color w/ no bricking; beautiful cold-climate/black pepper/spicy intense blackberry/boysenberry/Syrah/licorice some smokey/Rhonish/espresso/roasted complex nose; rather tart very rich/mouth-filling black pepper/cold-climate intense blackberry/boysenberry/Syrah/spicy bit herbal/thyme structured some complex flavor w/ ample/smooth/ripe tannins; amazing youthful and sure to go another 10 years at least; my easy favorite of the Edmunds St. John.
10. Qupe Syrah Bien Nacido Hillside 1993: Dark color w/ no bricking; classic mature Qupe Syrah smokey/roasted/gamey/smoked meats pungent/espresso light blackberry/Syrah very complex aromatic nose; fairly tart/bit metallic very smokey/pencilly/roasted/roasted meats/gamey slight peppery/licorice some blackberry/Syrah/blueberry rather Rhonish/espresso/pungent very complex classic mature Qupe Syrah flavor w/ smooth/gentle tannins; as good as a Qupe Syrah can get and showing no signs of age at 22 yrs old; a beautiful Syrah that they would die to make on the HermitageHill.

11. Edmunds St. John Zinfandel Story Vineyard/Shenandoah Valley 1994: Dark color with slight bricking; some blackberry/Zin/Amador briary some earthy/loamy bit smokey/oak old Amador Zin/cedary/pencilly lovely complex nose; slightly tart light smokey/oak some Amador blackberry/briary/Zin rather pencilly/cedary light earthy/dusty smooth/gentle complex flavor w/ light/smooth tannins; probably a bit beyond its peak but holding up amazingly well for a 20 yr old Zin; probably just going to fade quietly away into the night. This wine obviously didn’t fit the theme of Wood Shed Rhones. Steve wanted to show it because Parker’s review thoroughly trashed this wine and he gave it a 74 or 75. What a laugher.
12. Qupe Marsanne Doux Sawyer-Lindquist Vineyard/Edna Valley 2012: At this point, I just decided to sit back and enjoy this dessert wine. It was intensely grapey/peachy and much like an Italian passito like a Caluso Erbaluce Passito. No evidence of botrytis that I could find. Bob only rarely makes a dessert wine, but when he does, they’re outstanding. His and Jim Clendenen’s ThumbsUp Riesling was one of my classics.
A Wee Bloody Pulpit:

This was one of the most special wine events I have ever attended. It was great to listen to Steve & Bob share their stories and their wines. There was much spirited and informative discussion the length of the table. A finer group of people could not be found.

Across the board, all the wines showed extremely well. There were no wines that I felt were getting a bit creaky w/ age. They will all probably just quietly fade into the sunset and never really fall apart.

Many California Syrahs, especially those made in a big/massive/extracted style, just keep “lasting” in the bottle…but don’t really show much evolution or develop much complexity (are you listening John Alban??).

What is special about the wines of Bob & Steve is that they are ones that do develop complexity and nuance w/ age. I think it’s probably because of the balanced way the wines are constructed. Alas, it’s a lesson that’ll probably never be understood in Monktown.

Many thanks to both Steve & Bob for generously sharing these bottles from their archives. It was a most special treat. And a special thanks to Michael Wild for fashioning a menu at Bay Wolf that allowed these wines to really shine. And much thanks to all those who attended this event and contributed many insightful questions & comments. We will, hopefully, repeat this event again in a few years afore a RR.


The men of the hour.  Steve Edmunds, Tom Hill, and Bob Lindquist

So there you have it, I especially love Tom’s dismissive tone when it comes to Parker. One thing that many of us have learned over a time being involved with wine is that the age of the over-arching omnipotent critic is thankfully a thing of the past. Wine was always too complex and multi-dimensional for one voice to command it.

It’s been a pleasure to get to know Tom and I especially love his open mind. I, too was most impressed with the wines.

Here are some of my thoughts on the wines:

The wines, were all tasting great, with two exceptions. The first being that, as Tom mentioned, one of the bottles of the 1993 Qupe Marsanne was a bit oxidized because of a compromised cork but it did give the wine a rather intriguing nuttiness that the other bottle didn’t have as much of. The other exception was that the Qupe/ Edmunds Auction wine was too bretty for my tastes.

I loved the mature Zinfandel too, a wine that Steve told us Parker had given a score in the seventies.  It was a beautiful wine, elegant and refined after all these years.

If I had to pick a wine of the night it would have to be the 1993 Bien Nacido from magnum. This wine was an elegant beauty, almost like a savory meal with notes of bright fruit to add complexity. What a wine. One of those wines that you feel privileged to have gotten the chance to taste.

It was a special night. One that makes all those moments where sometimes I feel like this blog is a lone voice yelling into the wilderness, totally worth it.

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